Podcast 63: The Best of One World
this chair watches Star Trek for the
first time podcast 63 bay the final frontier these are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise its five-year mission to explore new worlds to seek out new life and new civilizations to boldly go right this week if I noticed
you still use the same space the final frontier intro in every single episode and from the beginning just so did you finally start listening to them I had to because only on about half of the ones on our blog did you list our end of the
season words I had to go back and listen to half of the season wrap-ups to find my old awards oh wow you did it that way I just did it all from scratch yeah that was going to take a long time although there were some
categories that basically forced me to go back and look at every single episode so I feel like I did a pretty comprehensive review Wow good for you I guess now is a good time to officially start I don't know if I'll throw all
that little talk in there or not but let's just say we're going now right okay okay this much junior watches Star Trek for the first time in KJR yeah I'm John I'm from Salt Lake City that's usually how we attention this is junior
Honolulu and I know it sounds like we're in the same room but we're really half a world away yeah just imagine when we do this like 50 years from now one of us could be on a different planet it's true as for now though all I all I
can do is go outside and look at the moon and realize that somewhere underneath the same bright moon you're podcasting with me yeah and it's really weird because the Sun is really shining bright right now is the moon seriously
out or you know John I just felt like Fievel for I just felt like iron you know Fievel you know as a kid I used to love that and I thought it was adorable and then I kind of manned up um okay anyway this is really special and we're
really excited because we're not even talking about any episodes this week we are just well any we're not summing up any episodes we're just going over the entire next generation the goods the bads we have several
categories we have several rankings lots of listeners sent in their stuff we were overwhelmed with with what people have been sending in so um doesn't scratch it what several categories that's an understatement I mean I would love to
compare this to our original series wrap up because I think this is way past what we did for that oh I know yeah alright you know I I think the original series is better than next generation but the next generation podcast wrap up is going
to be better than odd cast wrap so that's one thing next generation has going for it that's an award right there fast yeah podcast wrap up next generation but we don't get to that until like a few
podcasts from now when we compare the two I am we got three movies ago and then we can do that for movies and for four because and or three more movies we have seven movies oh wow that's a lot of movie watching
we got like after this coming up we got generations generations we have first contact contact and then maybe we'll just do one podcast where we talk out Trekkies Trekkies to and Galaxy Quest and then nemesis then note then
insurrection a lot of people forget interaction those are that interaction and the Nemesis okay nemesis has a parent I just learned this you saw inception right it's got the title uh is that that new crazy movie haven't you
seen it yet didn't we talk about this last time I haven't seen yet John I'm sorry one of the one of the cool guys in it one of the guys on their team is in is in that movie insurrection and not in season nemesis sorry nemesis and he was
really cool my nemesis yeah that's so cool in them no he was really cool in inception option but not so cool when emesis yeah yeah I haven't heard very many good things at all about the
next-generation Star Trek movies especially the last two oh really yeah I am holding myself back from speaking of it at this time in the mind remember if nemesis has even a star on them on Netflix we'll all right
that's that's for the future hey generations I think is on Netflix streaming right now we don't even have to rent it isn't first contact is regeneration is not however and then again nemesis or insurrection isn't but
nemesis is John if you'll remember and I do fondly the you and I saw generations out of the movie theater together I don't remember thanks a lot jerk you don't we're Steven am in there no but Jake Willis was no
because I remember seeing generations with Steven Hammond but I don't remember seeing it with you oh you just ought to get with Jake and Peter without me I am positive Jonathan Madson now you know why did I even do this podcast in
the first place I don't know it's all a fraud because apparently you've seen Star Trek before alright alright hot-diggity-dog do we have any crazy news before we just get going because this this has the
potential to be a long podcast it it does although I mean it's alright it out though or it might just go really quick yeah okay I have a little bit of news okay first of all and I know I'm forgetting something but shout out to a
few new loot a few new listeners Adam who sent in his top ten that I don't know you probably noticed that it came your way and his top ten is kind of similar to mine although he is wrong in a few places and also David who I don't
know if you caught this but his email address said yale.edu so he's probably on crew at Yale the guy with the megaphone strapped to his face they do that idea on the crew yeah I think I think so I'm glad that we've
broken through to the Ivy League yeah no that's pretty sweet that's pretty sweet but yeah David uh a couple of hours and emails so I hope he listens to us while he's punting yeah no that's cool I hope he has a v-neck sweater draped around
his shoulders oh we're not making fun we're having fun we're just happy yeah yeah okay anyway that was all I had oh and one more thing and I didn't tell you about this but I think we have to do this I just found a Rand okay you've
just finished watching all of next generation and I just found a random quiz online it's just really quick let me just ask you these and see if you really indeed have been watching let's see if you pass the Star Trek The Next
Generation test okay you ready yep okay here we go all right wharfs position on the enterprise was chief security officer he replaced the first chief security officer of the USS Enterprise what was
her name Josh er I don't know uh you said Tasha Yar yes the answer is actually not Tasha Yar Oh a couple I'm sorry I guess I get that one wrong well actually account that is wrong I can't I can't really go to the next one it's
actually multiple choice so you probably got the closest to the boot camp that is right well count that at all thank you okay moving on oh wow is that a weird sound okay ensign ro Laren had an intimate
relationship with a member of the enterprise's senior staff who she got reicht very good well actually I don't know if it's right yet let's see if it's right oh that is right yeah a little beep there okay what what's the exact
name of the USS enterprise that was commanded by jean-luc Picard I don't know it's the enterprise-d I don't know what the full breakup is II don't even know the number n c---seventeen man ok finding NCC one
seven zero one D that was close pretty good I got I got the letter right yeah since its multiple-choice I'm not reading you the multiple choices because that would be too easy but since you didn't get it under normal circumstances
I'd call you wrong but since it's multiple choice I'll call you right okay the Ferengi have a common code of conduct what's the name of this code yo Jimbo here here are the choices the principles of the Grand Nagus the
teachings of Kahless the rules of acquisition the guidelines of wealth how about the rules of acquisition or the guidelines well or anything but the Kahless no you're right the rules of acquisition very good we dare you only
I'm not sure if we talked about that we may have because that's a huge thing in deep space 9 in this quiz might be getting it mixed up I think we have mentioned it once though all right what our pattern enhancers used for oh
they're transporter booster maybe their device is used to amplify the signal lock of transporter signals yeah okay see if that works oh right which species possesses cloaking technology which two species
possess cloaking technology ie the technology to make ships undetectable okay if I'm correct the Federation does but they've agreed to not use it and then also the Romulans that's not a choice
Klingon Raghavan tilde choice I didn't know the Klingons had the cloaking technology I thought that was a Romulan thing did the Klingons cloak as well I don't know okay well you missed this one I'm putting Frankie and Vulcans roasted
it was actually Klingons and Romulans the Klingons had cloaked ships what are you talking about okay sure sure well you missed it because your Boca does that mean it's done now there are a couple more
questions let's give X one because that one's done earth is part of the Federation of Planets which species is not part of this Federation Vulcans and Dorian's Betazoid Klingons her um let's let's go
to Klingons John you know according to a few episodes ago the Federation does have a cloaking technology buddy I'm a little anyway alright fine fine is it Klingons Klingon ease again you're right
Oh hot dog she was a legendary first emperor of the Klingon Emperor Empire it's going to be Bill Blair yes that's right because I already went to the next one it's actually Kahless okay fine last one last one okay it shows a picture
here of some Klingons holding some stuff and the question is what are the swords called that the Klingons are holding so imagine a picture of some Klingons and they're holding something what are they holding is it up yeah
actually it is sebat left okay I'm gonna say Bach guitar okay I don't we're bogged art comes from maybe that's from I think it's some kind of desert galaxy gal Creek West maybe ok a bucket are there are a couple more questions
maybe I'll ask them to you later yeah maybe but you will yeah so but so far I think you only missed one so I guess I guess you passed next generation and you're not required to watch it all again ah it's good pass the final ok I
guess we're ready to go into Awards then you have mall filled out I do let's at art how long did it take you anyway several days it probably took me about three hours like just with all the cut and pasting like over a
period of like two days I'm so proud of you John and you're having it's so fast okay anyway we're going we're going to start with um award categories that some of you have sent in yep and then we'll do a few augment augmentees that john
sent in and then we'll go on to the but major categories big list first of all we have a few of Nick's picks for awards and stuff like that and I think if we have this correlated correctly the first one is episodes in which laksana Troy
appeared is that right best blocks on a Troy episodes and worst blocks on trips that's all that you want to do worse than best we can do it that way sure okay let's do worse and best okay this you want to give his pick oh I
didn't write his pick down okay I'm not we got a lot of categories in for people we didn't get a lot of their picks which actually will probably make this go a little faster um but let's go with um okay so for me
worst blocks on Troy episode is Menasha Troy oh really Manasa Troy but I have such a nickname and there's nudity yeah there there's it's not the good kind of nudity and then the this shows her pleasuring a
Ferengi it's bad that's true no bad is really bad but there is one that's far worse and that's the one called cost of living which is the one where she was in the mud bath and she tells Alexander the most valuable life lesson of all that
sometimes it's important just to enjoy yourself ah that's pretty bad that up so it's probably gonna rear its ugly head again maybe possibly okay well on the other hand my favorite walks on a trail episode is the episode called half a
life which I mostly like because Charles and Emerson Winchester from mashes in it and he plays this recital sixty five-year-old who has to kill himself ritualistically dip when he gets of that age I agree on that do you
know yeah yeah actually a pretty good episode yeah kind of sort of good it might make an appearance on my top ten list actually oh boy oh boy John keyword might okay well
menage a Troy might make it might make an appearance on my top ten list as well so okay moving on to most entertaining shipwide ailment go ahead John okay okay so there's only one right there's not a best and worst entertaining yeah just
the best okay the the most entertaining shipwide ailment was that one where they all got drunk and they all slept with each other the naked maggot okay I'm gonna go with the Barclay syndrome of course yes I'll be honest I
should have picked that one that's a guy you should have okay how what was yours for best hair or worse there do we do worst first worst hair yeah and and bi I prefer the aliens I stuck with like headdress things or yes so I bet this is
basically the humans for my worst hair I went with data oh really okay yeah I my worst day right with Tasha Yar it's pretty bad I couldn't manage yeah Seth hey Deanna Troi oh don't you just want to sleep in her hair yeah I do
maybe maybe live in it although I considered wharfs berries in clean air yeah there's berries in Kramer no no cheese she has luxurious locks oh I agree with you there okay well that all I use all right John worst alien
headpiece the worst one is if you remember right the evil aliens in the game I haven't written down somewhere else but you remember that woman seduced Riker and gave her gave him that video
game that got the ship addicted the Butthead Ian's yes the Butthead Ian's I wasn't sure if you remember her but yes definitely the Butthead Ian's in 92 she has a giant butt on her face and that's the worst skull head alien
design what do you think I'm gonna go with this delay from lonely among us and it's just like a giant cobra head the entire upper half of their body is a cobra their Cobra so so that was your your worst that was my worst yeah okay
what's your past the Kardashians oh of course yeah I should have picked Kardashians because strangely out of all the aliens I take for my best I picked this Olay from lonely among us
out of the hundreds of aliens I think your worst for my best looks like that's like a anyway so I'm cool though like I'm still like just the picture looks cool yeah I would did the the people that didn't the the people that were
fighting with the Salette there were their faces basically look like dogs like Wallace yeah that was right up there too but my own bro mentioned for best alien head is the badge orange because it's simple yet effective yeah I
would agree with that except it's not effective okay then all right lord I seems though that's good most interesting one time use never again seeing prop set-piece and I'm going to go with the bridge from
yesterday's enterprise it rocked my socks now nice and it looks like I don't have something here okay that you all had me clean up the burn I will say the the that talking pod in Haven that announced that Deanna Troi was
about to get married and it was just this box with a face on it and the face was painted silver like the box and it was that thing okay I John what is your story episode with the closest to reality parallel
symbiosis because it's close to reality about drugs drugs will ruin everything everything so um I'm gonna go with family oh right you know the whole episode was just about Picard back on
the farm right and and it was interesting because in the future we in in the brave new world that exists in the 24th century it takes a village and we're all socialists and so it was actually a commentary on life back in
the 20th century because they don't really have families in the future yeah that's true it was almost like they were relating closely to us so now families could also is like a is an honorable mention I put
force of nature because they actually use the term climate change in the episode itself Google okay John it's been pointed out the the silver box with the silver face was actually played by someone so our apartment's Armin
shimerman played works who is a character in deep space 9 that was what we forgot to say in announcements at the end of this episode we haven't said it yet at the end of this episode you're going to announce if you're going to do
d space 9 and up my papa that's right I think I read maybe 10 essays there was an outpouring of Si de yeah and you wouldn't believe how many people like wrote in and said you really shouldn't do Deep Space 9 like the majority the
essays that was it I know that's weird why would people even bother writing those yeah it seems like a waste of time for that essay no no obviously everyone wants us to continue on so we will discuss the various arguments and then
we'll we'll bring that up so anyway that's for later all right John ah my favorite only on seeing alien and I'm going with the the bog monster from skin of evil oh that's a good one oh I like that if it
talk to me go burl real happy I take the by NARS which I don't really like very much but I kind of like the concept of them that their society is is based on computer language which I think it's very sci-fi you know I a hundred years
from now we're all going to look like the by NARS we're going to be paired with a one in a zero and we're all going to like speak binary because we're so computers literate by then I John what is your least favorite one time scene
alien okay and these guys didn't bug me I mean no they bug me way worse than everybody else because a lot of people really like this episode was an OK episode but the satheri ins from the nth degree
haha I think they look so jolly heard the one guy anyway they're just so they're so evil right it's like it's like lalala I am too lazy to move from this section of my eccentric part of space and so I will try to over here and
it will be delightful ah they bugged me they bug me um weird old man loading head huh I'm getting a phone call hold on just a second all right John I turned my phone off my my house phone is off wow that's committed
this is this is most important okay you want to know how committed I am to this podcast I haven't had a house phone in seven years that's commitment okay my least-favorite only one time seeing a lien is the dough fall when she
becomes the alien oh yeah so weird looking I don't know but then your favorite right is when she becomes mädchen Amick huh but I aha no okay anyway machen a meek I forgot about her she might make
the cuter than Wesley in first season award which is coming up oh okay okay all right I'll read this one okay pick the worst main cast hook up and then in parentheses under duress or under other influence possibly alternate reality or
quote a vision oh okay so I'm doing the sou da the best the worst main cast hook up I'm doing Tasha and data okay because we're in that crazy bad outfit and then there was did she just what she asked and did she ask him some weird weird
question and the by I don't his respond to us I am fully functional yes so apparently in his programming he's also a gigolo yeah something like that yeah and yeah that's that seems kind of weird that that that would be programmed so
that dr. Soong would spend five years of whatever programming that but you know uh and you know it's kind of weird because data was looking for his humanity being for seven years why didn't they just get him drunk again has
he had all his emotions he was able to satisfy a woman and everything the whole nine yards it seems like he was pretty much of their right in that very like what well that was like the second episode yeah well okay my least favorite
my worst main cast hookup was Troy and Worf but it was only the third time they hooked up or maybe it was the second time when they both be evolved and mutated into a frog and an armored raping machine so that was the worst
hookup what yeah they were it was pretty bad I I don't think I could stand for that but the best hookup was in conundrum when Roe and Riker hooked up because Rose said well we're probably married so
let's hook up okay now that um I'm not sure this discounts because it says main cast and this is recurring character my my favorite hookup is Barclay Indiana oh the end and I think we we just left to
the conclusion yes that there was a hookup uh but if that doesn't count because she's not main cast and I'm gonna go ahead and go parallels Worf Indiana I love how you said she's not main cast Oh Oh Berkeley is definitely
in the main cast but Deanna Troi she's no I wouldn't call her he's not she's more of a recurring character yeah comes on every now and then so alright that is so what's your uh your D de jure so that was all next categories Nick
thank you very much very good Nick and now we're on to Joey Smith who gave us category and it's a good one yeah well we only take to one category from his because his other one kind of held it off into some other ones but alien
technology best alien technology yeah and this one I had a dog on I think I've kind of been won over on this one but I'm just gonna have to go with the Ferengi subspace shield penetrating transporter because it just it's really
an absolutely revolutionary alien technology yeah I actually I actually went with Ferengi subspace shield penetrating beaming technology okay it's yeah it's beyond the pale whatever that means I don't even know
what that term means I think I used incorrectly but it's it's right out yeah it's right it's right out okay you know that we're we're feeling our oats when we start quoting a the Holy Grail huh let's see okay so Tim II has given us um
a few categories all right floral action from data is that that way huh huh yeah yeah you can start okay well I'm asking the question to you okay not destroying all mankind and taking over the cow
see our beast attempting oh we feel pretty much okay that's an interesting way to put it the least plausible actions because okay you took it in a different direction you took it with the assumption that he's
the murdering killing machine and now my guess is I took it with like if he's really so good why would he do this so like my least plausible is um just uh it is actually evidence that he would take over the universe
okay you know I'm saying I'm ding which is which is in the most toys when he's beaming out and then he tries to he tries to kill Kiva's Fajo and he was unsuccessful and then they say data appears you fired your your phaser
trying to kill that guy and data said oh uh it must be wrong I am lying to you right now and data line yeah big fat liar big fat liar I really got stuck up on that for a long time yeah well it's a it's a pattern it's the
beginning of a pattern of deception yep so John what is the action most likely to result in an ejection from Starfleet okay I'm just just picture this whole scenario here say you're Captain Picard and you have two dignitaries from an
alien planet staying like not so well I are they on the board the ship well that you're escorting two dignitaries who are running for office for world leaders and there are two of them and then your security chief beams over to one of the
ships and stabs the guy in the chest one of these candidates I mean talk about international like intergalactic incident but yeah I'm voting for when Worf beams over and kills Duras good and I didn't remember that also ominous sign
of Simard I'm going to go ahead and so watched out a lot officer and I'm and I'm adding phantasms can crack them again I can't read that data does the real ovule obvi that happen to have knowledge
change is amazing the record ready it's like they've lost the audit asking the scales about well it's kind of like speeding everybody does it so eventually like the you know the the force of it the weight of it just kind
of wears off after you know the twentieth episode where you see it happen yeah and so yet but it's kind of weird um it it would you would think that Starfleet doesn't look too kindly on stabbing to stab anybody stabbings
okay maybe that's why they stab like if you phasers somebody that would be really bad but if you just stab them oh no no you can stab people I mean we're not going to throw people in prison for that what is this the Middle Ages go
ahead Bob whoever you want oh man that's good fun okay you are annoying walks on a moment okay I can't really pinpoint anything but they're probably had to be appointed which either she was asleep or she was
off-screen and they were talking about her okay that might that may have happened yeah although I don't know we you don't have any proof that she even sleeps doing I don't know I just put when she was dating Charles from mash
but only back to the point up to the point where she gives the speech on the stupid hats that the planet wears because she gives us weird hat speech it's kind of dumb yeah okay okay well that wraps up
Tim's categories next we have a couple of categories from Trent Trent Cole yes which is a great name Trent Cole and it's almost like Trent steel trance feel oh hello max power my name is Trent steel you don't have to wait in line
you've got a great name okay Trent that is first category that scientific discovery go John um I I just put Dyson Sphere he actually asked it in the question I'm like yeah uh yeah the Dyson Sphere
Network okay I'm going to go ahead and go with a transporter stasis which is apparently it has no time limit and I'm taking it from relics right where Scotty just threw himself in the buffer and was there for several hundred years yeah you
could totally just like Rumpelstiltskin it up and and see what the futures like yeah yeah there's no rewind but you know hopefully it's he's just good but I mean Searcy maybe when people when people are about
to die on a regular basis when people are about to die they should just throw them in the buffer yeah I think you know we'll give it a few years we'll figure out Atta welcome it will take you out of the buffer just as soon as we find a
cure for 17 stab wounds in the back yeah oh wait I had another one for this one okay I had the least credible scientific discovery okay and that was in the episode the neutral zone when they found the three human losers from the 21st
century I think yeah same kind of thing they were like in cryogenics which is kind of like the pattern buffer but less safe all right time travel episodes these favorite times arrow - no no no mine was a matter
of time starring Max Headroom and in a very moronic crew of the enterprise you know why don't I even remember that it's the remember Max Headroom Radisson he came he's a time traveler oh yeah and he started stealing stuff and and he was
actually just a petty thief from the 22nd century 21st century or sometime okay but my favorite well um my favorite is actually different episode but I'm not going to use it but I do like time scape which checks no no not
time scape I'm changing my mind on the fly I'm gonna go time squared I'm not here because I like it because it's where you meet yourself from a different future and you talk to yourself and you reason
with yourself like Captain Picard did and I thought it was kind of cool okay I'm gonna go ahead and go with firstborn because oh it's not a real heavy time travel episode and you only figure out the time travel is a part of
it at the end I love that at the end of when the time travel was discovered as how stuff happened that it was like how did you accomplish such a thing as this so-called time-traveling um but I have a time travel bus yeah because we know the
time travel uh happened in this and it was done in order to change the past but you know what John you can't change fate and maybe we shouldn't even be trying by the way in the show Glee I love that actress that plays the Cheerios uh the
the head cheerleader lady once again Lynch of course she's gosh she is so awesome anyway so there we go John did you say your worst time travel episode or your best what's your best no you did you see I did x squared right
yeah no wait okay she's will an art who the best worst seriously weapon system that was only seen once yeah you know I didn't best and worse there was only seen once uh you did I thought you did no but if you have if you have answer
service go for it okay I'll do I'll do my answers because I think my answers are pretty important come first the worst the Ferengi foam laser whips okay and then the best that we only saw once the sitar an amnesia ray in conundrum
that's pretty sweet yeah those are both sweet worth mentioning okay alright go and do the Willis next okay now our friend and listener Jake Willis I've submitted some categories and I didn't know how to deal
with them in fact it made me cry but John was brave and yeah I'm John let you take it hey do you want to read them to me you go ahead now cuz you don't have them because I don't have them okay
the congratulations you aren't James Tiberius Kirk award which ya what do you do there and I hear what that means yeah I pitch using the Ferb in the crazy technology that we'd never seen use the main deflector dish
technology on the Borg and having it accomplished nothing absolutely nothing that's the congratulations you aren't James Tiberius Kirk award awarded Riker for firing the main deflector dish in
that one that's pretty good okay the Whoopi Goldberg award can be awarded to the most awkward and out of place casting job during the whole series and I went with James Worthy he played the giant
mute Klingon in gambit part one or two and then the cuter then wil wheaton in season one award which can be awarded to anyone cuter than will in season one so this measure because he was the cutest person in in season one yeah but I went
with Rhonda all rich as the secretary into big goodbye remember her she looked like Victoria Jackson a little bit okay the best data moment award you didn't really even have a best data moment uh offer the best datum moment
award I'm probably gonna I think my favorite might have been when he stabbed Troy in the chest okay well I had when he told that woman that her son is dead and hates her ha ha ha ha
your son is dead but if you were alive he would hate you you know you probably the best data moment that is that's pretty awful ok the best episode were Ashley Judd made a guest appearance I have the game you have nothing right no
I also meant for this one too because I think I can let me just gonna have to go with the game that's probably probably the winner there okay and that's all I have I didn't really have another answer there okay so those are the Jake Willis
ones that we didn't know what to do with but that was pretty good okay alright now we have some Josh Fillmore Awards and I'm pretty sure that this email was moe they making fun of us since I've been
being made fun of from Josh Filmore for the last 33 years but all in fun so let's see basically he wants to know who would win in fights so the Romulans and the Jawas I think I'm going to go with the Romulans
because they're taller and although it's hard to argue the strength in numbers if you had like a swarm of Jawas perhaps I don't know well no I went with the Jawas because if you noticed the way he phrased it he said the Romulan and the
Jawas ha ha there you go he of one Romulan so if all the Jawas had to fight one Romulan I go with the Jawas okay there you go now let's the next one is Picard versus fever win what do you got John I went
with the card because Steve Irwin is dead ha ha ha ha that's a fine argument I'm going to go with the idea that fever when they did the ones alive Steve Irwin because on the other hand the card is also fictional so I I'm sorry it's did I
did I something I don't know I'm sorry I never really acknowledged that till now that's kind of a good point if it's true I'm sure so I'm going to go ahead and go with even though Picard looks like himself in good shape I'm going to go
with Steve Irwin because you know that guy he was a scrapper yeah he really want to he wrestled alligators and crocodiles and and other various deadly animals um okay crusher versus the late Estelle
Getty are we lucky Estelle Getty at the 8th she was in in the Golden Girls well he phrased it the late Estelle ready so she's dead ok it's probably crusher yeah definitely crusher on this one because zombie Getty she
wasn't - she was kind of frail in real life so zombie Getty is probably even frailer but seriously though if it was Estelle Getty in her not so much prime but as he was on Golden Girls I can totally
picture her sneaking up behind crusher and snapping her neck somehow okay all right how about the Borg versus chud which is Canopus a humanoid underground dwellers which if you've ever seen the movie
they're like industrial sized garbage bags with flashlights for eyes but I'll go with the Borg on this one okay I'm going to go ahead and go with Judd because I think it would be like chimpanzees going crazy
the Borg their slow methodical but the judge would just they can't be stopped according to Daniel Stern they can't be stopped you know I never saw Chun I should John how did how did you understand the
episode in New York with the Simpsons and the judge sandwich heads go Oh Homer you can't blame New York just on the pinch and the chud's okay all right so what's the next one clings on versus tear Ned I don't even
know what tear net is I meant to look this up I'm going to google it really really quick because I'm curious I know my gosh has something up his sleeve here during it is it some Doctor Who thing I don't know I'll go on to the next one
while you're looking that up in native versus Dolph Lundgren in the cage and um hi I hate doing this because because Dolph Lundgren is awesome but I think data it's always acknowledged that if he wanted to like he could like kill
anybody right I mean he's kind of indestructible murderous however if Dolph Lundgren were given some inside information and was told where the off switch is data does have that off switch which is a real Achilles heel but I'm
I'm gonna probably go data on this one um I yeah I went with data because Dolph Lundgren's in a cage the way I read this ha ha ha ha data for Dolph Lundgren in a cage and xfo can he just phases him he just shoots his phase around him data's
Washington uh picks up the cage and throws it off a cliff or some okay so I just looked up to your name uh-huh it like doesn't exist but it it did one of those like Google did you mean things and it said did you mean
Tiran 'add which is a fictional race from Warhammer 40,000 tabletop wow I have no idea so I'm gonna go ahead and go with Klingon yeah me too because all they have to do is just knock the Warhammer 40,000 tabletop game off just
like knock it over oh yeah yeah okay what's the next one Sulu vs. Swamp Thing did you ever see The Swamp Thing I never saw one thing yeah no oh my gosh no okay you seriously it was the other one you haven't seen
we're dressing yeah kay so seriously you need to queue up chat in the swampthing immediately double feature that sounds like a good one yeah uh was you quiet you know I got to go with the Swamp Thing because he has unnatural strength
and no I guess it depends on if they were on dry land because he kind of thrives in the swamp also if he were in outer space because you know if he was in complete darkness because the Swamp Thing thrives on the Sun because he's a
plan sort of but I think all in all we're going Swamp Thing here well I go Sulu I think sue just go Hulu and then like get behind Swamp Thing because and in that grab that he did in Star Trek free to that big guy with a moustache it
was very homoerotic and or get a sword out and just you know although wait I don't know why that has nothing to do with next generation though so maybe we should throw that question out okay yeah and then Josh's last quote question I
would also like to see a race between Riker and a gorilla well that's not really a question that's more of a statement who would see a race thank you so the answer is agreed agreed I would just like to see a cute little
crash helmet stuck on the gorilla you know when they get their little go-karts because I imagine that's what the race is like gorillas in a cute little helmet go-cart helmet yeah so okay all right now we
have we have John's categories right yours yeah these are some of the ones I thought of last minute okay what is the worst and the best alien ship you know this was hard for me because I actually did like a huge on memory often there's
like a huge database of all the alien ships and I was looking through them like okay that looks a lot like that and then that so okay worst alien ship this is good you're going to say I'm cheating because it's not really alien but I'm
going to go with the enterprise-d really because it looks like a sink yeah it's it's oh I know they were trying to modernize the look of the enterprise but it took a real step backwards okay my worst is actually the Cardassian ships
or one of the Cardassian ships it actually looks like a shovel like just a because that's what my favorite is the Ferengi ships I think look really cool the kind of brown and they're swept forward and kind of like spiky and just
kind of really sleek and smooth looking but then kind of sharp on the wings I think it's pretty cool well for my best I'm I feel almost like I'm copping out I'm just going to go ahead and go with a Klingon bird-of-prey nicely classic
design did the little one right not the Klingon Cruiser the bird of trades that they had in Star Trek 3 that's with the wings swept down kind of diagonal the one you see every time you see a Klingon bird-of-prey that's the one I'm talking
about my rifling because there is the Klingon Cruiser that Kim Peck was on it's like way bigger and it doesn't look as cool ok then definitely the smaller one okay Jon the ugliest alien race ok I'm going to go with the dreamin from
penpals which is sad because it was a little girl but she was the ugliest little girl you have gray out of fingers and yeah pretty unattractive I'm gonna go ahead and go with the Jenai tonight you know oh wait
is that those are the the androgynous ones yes from Outkast yeah oh that's sad how they they weren't too bad oh they okay they're just looking the haircut right like that is a horrible haircut like it's like what unisex salon did you
get that haircut in now from the prettiest aliens I'm going to go ahead and go with the creo syns from the perfect mate and it's not just famke janssen but it showed several creations and they're all pretty attractive not to
mention an eye I know we're going strictly by physical attributes here but also you know the whole metamorph thing that that's pretty cool that's true but not anyways all the kre-o scens were attractive and she was really darn
attractive so I went with the aliens which I think um this day are going lanit Hawaiians know they're not from the justice planet but the Hawaiians they were in the episode aqua l remember a qui L one yet another girl that Geordi
fails with is Shia Hawaiian she is a whole ian yes he's very cute alright that she just adds little ridges okay as a an honorable mention I did the angels from the episode angel one which is the
planet controlled by Amazon women oh yeah yeah okay alright so what's next the coolest / lamest special effect okay so lame first yeah I'm gonna go with a crazy straws from emergence oh that's a good one that's a good one
the the life form that's crazy strong yeah look at this new life forms we found it in our Burger King Happy Meal I am going to put in in Genesis when the when the crew was de-evolving but then when data's cat
de-evolve they didn't they didn't change the cat with makeup like they did the rest of the crew they just like ah yeah just just stick a lizard on the set just go ahead and bring that lizard over and replace it with that cat you just put
that lizard what that cat was yeah okay there go well that's good enough that's pretty bad has been pretty stupid yep pretty stupid my favorite actually I had a really hard time spent so much time like thinking like oh look at that
effect look at that effect that was kind of lame that was kind of lame I couldn't think of one where we were like wow that was a really cool effect but continuing on with the lizard theme a when Jordi changed into an invisible lizard and we
actually see him it's not that cool but when he's like running through the hallway and he looks like predator and he could just kind of see the invisible Ness of him that's what I liked okay well there you go I'm gonna go with the
Enterprise cloaking and phasing in Pegasus yeah that Android man yeah it may not even have been cool I don't remember what it looked like when it happened it seems even it's Jojo the enterprise is cloaking and then Phase II
Oh interesting yeah and phasing you're right okay now you're the worst doctor on the enterprise-d we can we have a worse I thought it was just the best now there's worse dr. category the worst
doctor um okay the lady that came on and and was like performing experiments on people in ethics yes yeah I can't remember her name but yeah okay she was a pretty bad doctor I actually went with dr. Pulaski
from the second season okay she was just she was old and she plus she was racist against robot yeah that's true that's true so Jon then who's the best enterprise-d doctor dr. salar tonight talked to her
yeah I I agree I also put dr. salar night doctor of course not just Lara night doctor yes oh okay okay next okay are we this is just to our big list now okay no no no I threw these on as a last
minute John add-on so we're going to do the worst Twilight Zone episode and the Bell so John worst Twilight Zone episode okay hang on I gotta go into an email here because I just got a great email from
David David from Yale or at least with the Yale email address because he he actually sent in a list we should probably post this email because this is like we barely got this in but he he had a list of best Romulan
episodes best Klingon episodes and best Twilight episodes which I'm looking at here okay so the worst Twilight episode yeah I'm gonna go with clues okay that's the one where only data knew what was going on but they had to avoid the race
that was zena phobic and was going to kill him if they found out so but then like they found that they were bones were broken without them knowing and plants were growing and it was actually a day later and stuff like that okay Wow
there you go that's interesting so my worst is frame of mind hmm mostly just because Riker in extreme overacting and it makes me tired yeah yeah I kind of have a place in my heart for frame of mind because I love seeing
the screen shatter uh-huh that's always fun that was a good that was a great special effect wasn't it yeah yeah a great a special effect okay so what is your favorite Twilight Zone episode well the episode itself wasn't super good but
just specifically like just thinking in the category Twilight Zone episodes uh-huh I liked the one I can you remember its call now I knew it it's called it's the one where they can't get to sleep and they start seeing like they
start hallucinating and they start in and crusher is night terrors yeah night terrors it's interests on like all these other ones like remember me and conundrum and even frame of mind and in the one what's the one where they
get they get captured by by the aliens who like cut them on the saw actually that one's really good maybe I should pick that one the one where they they they imagine that metal table with that
serrated song there and they're cutting their arms off and is that night terrors that's not night terrors I can't remember which ones okay but there are those - everybody knows which two episodes I'm talking about but I do like
the one with a hallucinate because they can't sleep because crushers hanging out on the morgue and all the bodies just sit up and that's just really scary but then the other one is really scary because it's alien abduction it's like a
remake of fire in the sky and that was really good so those two authors I think in my favorite okay well John I'm gonna go ahead and go with uh probably remember me I really like to remember me I know I remember
I thought you'd goes remember me that was the first that's what started the whole Twilight Zone episode looks signage on the phone pink I think out is concerning that would be I know I've been having
everyone just like telling you stuff it's like not that you know is not true and be crazy hot so uh honorable mention two parallels I really like two parallels yeah parallels is good okay now here's
over in the big list right now it is time for the big list all right uh the best oh let's do worst title I had a three-way time just so you know okay uh this died this one came up immediately I didn't have to go through
and scan through all my I think I did for the best but the the worst I'm just gonna go with the outrageous O'Connor haha Oh outrageous outrageous outrageous --mess my worst was a three-way tie between CEREC ensign ro and a qui l it
was just because there goodnight they're just names of people in the episode week that's right what's your favorite okay my favorite actually there were a lot that I really liked I'm looking at my list right now I'm just gonna go ahead
and say ah skin of e okay that's pretty that's pretty darn good um I'm going to go ahead and along similar lines I'm choosing The Devil's do well that was on my list I'm looking at my list right now
like Devil's Due I almost picked Devil's Due because it was like okay you got the alliteration plus it's like like taking this term and just literal izing it for the sake of the episode you know yeah like literal izing some old expression
which i think is kind of cool but on on my honorable mention list i a fistful of datas Eyeborg the Icarus factor that's pretty good up the long ladder which I almost chose Samaritan snare and menage a troice Naza Troy probably is the best
title in that but whoo this is a big one what is your best technology no what is your worst or knowledge we do worst okay I don't recall the episode but in the medical Bay you have these things that people are inside these containers and
there's like a shield so that their sickness can't get out now you stick your hand in the containers and your hands get all infected but when your hand comes out of the container you're Dee infected
unfortunately that hole is too small to drag that person's body back out asking like the worst conceived technology it certainly is you're correct yeah I think that's in queue who actually because there's like
a kid who is dying in queue who that they had to get so yeah um okay no you're right that's that's the best one or the worst one of course I just picked virtual reality from interphase Georgia yeah okay so yeah
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